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welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally undone by the american people. most people do not think about that -- totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages. i will pour out my frustration on dealing with the central intelligence agency and various administrations trying to get information. why was it they felt we were so unworthy of being trusted? why was it they were willing to talk to pat roberts, me, saxby chambliss, dianne feinstein, but not anybody else? until we literally bludgeoned them, diane and i, to include everybody. it is amazing. i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff.
welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally undone by the american people. most people do not think about that -- totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from...
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welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages. i will pour out my frustration on dealing with the central intelligence agency and various administrations trying to get information. why was it they felt we were so unworthy of being trusted? why was it they were willing to talk to pat roberts, me, saxby chambliss, dianne feinstein, but not anybody else? until we literally bludgeoned them, diane and i, to include everybody. it is amazing. i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff. under the previous administration, when you have a briefing with the presiden
welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages....
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., mr. john brennan. he said, quote, hezbollah started out as purely a terrorist organization back in the early 1980's and has evolved significantly over time . and now it has members of parliament, in the cabinet, lawyers, doctors, others who are part of the hezbollah organization and so quite frankly i'm pleased to see that a lot of hezbollah individuals are in fact renouncing that type of terrorism and violence and are trying to participate in the political process in lebanon in a very legitimate fashion. they have not sworn off violence in lebanon. they have not sworn off violence in egypt, in syria, as we well know, in libya, albania, tuesday nearbyia -- tunesia, even in african nations further south. i said before, expressed my concern that this administration by helping them, encouraging them to overthrow this nation's ally, president mubarak, express concerns before it was done about giving military assistance to people that we knew, including al qaeda, to joe throw a man who had blood on his hand
., mr. john brennan. he said, quote, hezbollah started out as purely a terrorist organization back in the early 1980's and has evolved significantly over time . and now it has members of parliament, in the cabinet, lawyers, doctors, others who are part of the hezbollah organization and so quite frankly i'm pleased to see that a lot of hezbollah individuals are in fact renouncing that type of terrorism and violence and are trying to participate in the political process in lebanon in a very...
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government make decisions as to who should be on their kill list and mr brennan would certainly be the most appropriate person to ask because he is known to have been in charge of the kill list and he's known as the architect of the administration's targeted assassinations program so the question of who the drones are targeting was critical and one of the senators asked john brennan whether there should be at least some judicial oversight over those executions by drones and here's what he said none of those actions or to determine past guilt for those actions that he took the decisions that are made or to take action so that we prevent future action to protect american lives so the rationale that john brennan gave for not going to court is that the administration is not in the business of punishing individuals but it's in the business of preventing attacks he basically says the u.s. government could execute people for what they haven't done yet you would expect a follow up questions from lawmakers as to how the administration determines the level of threat that these people constitute
government make decisions as to who should be on their kill list and mr brennan would certainly be the most appropriate person to ask because he is known to have been in charge of the kill list and he's known as the architect of the administration's targeted assassinations program so the question of who the drones are targeting was critical and one of the senators asked john brennan whether there should be at least some judicial oversight over those executions by drones and here's what he said...
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government make decisions as to who should be on their kill list and mr brennan would certainly be the most appropriate person to ask because he is known to have been in charge of the kill list and he's known as the architect of the administration's targeted assassinations program so the question of who the drones are targeting was critical and one of the senators asked john brennan whether there should be at least some judicial oversight over those executions by drones and here's what he said none of those actions or to determine past guilt for those actions that he took the decisions that are made or to take action so that we prevent future action to protect american lives so the rationale that john brennan gave for not going to court is that the administration is not in the business of punishing individuals but it's in the business of preventing attacks he basically says the u.s. government could execute people for what they haven't done yet you would expect a follow up questions from lawmakers as to how the administration determines the level of threat that these people constitute
government make decisions as to who should be on their kill list and mr brennan would certainly be the most appropriate person to ask because he is known to have been in charge of the kill list and he's known as the architect of the administration's targeted assassinations program so the question of who the drones are targeting was critical and one of the senators asked john brennan whether there should be at least some judicial oversight over those executions by drones and here's what he said...
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brennan is of course known for methods that have frankly enraged and even alienated many of america's allies especially when we're talking about interrogation methods on the drone program what in your view would his approval his confirmation in the senate mean for washington's foreign policy. it would mean that someone who was deemed unacceptable for years for e.v.a.'s because of his involvement in torture and rendition about which we've learned nothing but additional negative information is now acceptable because he engages in a program of murder and the goodness of the murder outweighs the bad nissel of the torture and this is actually how people think and how they talk that murdering people is or legal more acceptable more moral and just in good then capturing people and torturing them as if anyone is captured must be tortured and so forth and as if we must have a ground war anywhere we don't have a drone war that this is how they are thinking and it is it is absolutely revolting there there are many americans who do object but we're in a minority well they have had harsh words for
brennan is of course known for methods that have frankly enraged and even alienated many of america's allies especially when we're talking about interrogation methods on the drone program what in your view would his approval his confirmation in the senate mean for washington's foreign policy. it would mean that someone who was deemed unacceptable for years for e.v.a.'s because of his involvement in torture and rendition about which we've learned nothing but additional negative information is...
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if mr. brennan was involved, i don't have evidence of that. no one does other than the people high in the investigation. congress has the right to know and we have to wonder who is minding the store here when you've the got this kind of information being leaked to the press. when it's high level security as this, and it impacts directly our national security. i've got to tell you it's a huge story with anything implications and somebody needs to come clean and come clean quick here. >> do you think it rises to the level of an impeachable offense if somehow the president himself authorized this leak? >> well, i mean, to reach a high crime and misdemeanor, moral turp tued, that's a high standard and i'm not going to venture whether this would be an impeachable offense or not. we don't have the evidence showing that. but i'll tell you what it does show at a minimum and this is significant, if the president of the united states is running our national security through his offices, which is what happens in these kind of situations and there's a lea
if mr. brennan was involved, i don't have evidence of that. no one does other than the people high in the investigation. congress has the right to know and we have to wonder who is minding the store here when you've the got this kind of information being leaked to the press. when it's high level security as this, and it impacts directly our national security. i've got to tell you it's a huge story with anything implications and somebody needs to come clean and come clean quick here. >> do...
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i would like to ask mr. brennan, "have you considered putting forth with congress the idea of perhaps legislating in this area, having a regularized system that involves other branchesf government? we don't want just trust one anch with th awesome power i would love for john brennan to answer the following question. the legal justification for us to drop bombs in places that, like yemen and places like pakistan and north africa, places at which we are not declared to be at war, is the following. i would also like to know what he thinks the line is between assassinating, target killings extra, outside of the united states and within the united states? is there actually a line that can be drawn? what if there was a foreign person within the united states? does the authority that is invested in the obama administration is claiming, does that allow them to kill people within the united states who are foreign? does it allow them to kill people within the united states who are u.s. citizens? there's no meaningful
i would like to ask mr. brennan, "have you considered putting forth with congress the idea of perhaps legislating in this area, having a regularized system that involves other branchesf government? we don't want just trust one anch with th awesome power i would love for john brennan to answer the following question. the legal justification for us to drop bombs in places that, like yemen and places like pakistan and north africa, places at which we are not declared to be at war, is the...
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brennan is of course known for methods that have frankly enraged and even alienated many of america's allies especially when we're talking about interrogation methods and the drone program what in your view what his approval his confirmation in the senate mean for washington's foreign policy it would mean that someone who was deemed unacceptable four years previous speaks most of his involvement in torture and rendition of about which we've learned nothing but additional negative information is now acceptable the close he engages in a program of murder and the goodness of the murder outweighs the bad news of the torture and this is actually how people think and how they talk that murdering people is or legal more acceptable more moral and just really then capturing people in torturing them as if anyone is captured must be tortured and so forth and as if we must have a ground war anywhere we don't have a drone war but this is out there thinking and it is absolutely revolting there there are many americans who do object but we're in a minority well they have had harsh words for sure but
brennan is of course known for methods that have frankly enraged and even alienated many of america's allies especially when we're talking about interrogation methods and the drone program what in your view what his approval his confirmation in the senate mean for washington's foreign policy it would mean that someone who was deemed unacceptable four years previous speaks most of his involvement in torture and rendition of about which we've learned nothing but additional negative information is...
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senate intelligence committee and the full senate has to really ask some hard questions of mr. brennan. >> reporter: critics also point out that if the obama white house wants to build broad support for this program it would be in their interests to show more transparency as to the rules which govern targeted killings because targeting an american citizen for death without judicial due process is a real departure, even from what we saw under the bush administration. jenna: big story for us today, catherine. thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: right now high stakes negotiations underway in washington of the president obama sitting down with top business and union leaders to talk about immigration reform and a possible guest worker program. meantime down the street on capitol hill the house judiciary committee holding its own hearing on immigration. joining us now to talk about all this, a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist for "the hill." the president you point out missed an opportunity or a deadline really to put forward his budget. what's he doing instead? >
senate intelligence committee and the full senate has to really ask some hard questions of mr. brennan. >> reporter: critics also point out that if the obama white house wants to build broad support for this program it would be in their interests to show more transparency as to the rules which govern targeted killings because targeting an american citizen for death without judicial due process is a real departure, even from what we saw under the bush administration. jenna: big story for...
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at the white house they are emphasizing brennan's experience. >> mr. brennan brings, i think, not on a vast amount of experience, but a significant perspective on the battles that we wage in this effort. and the right way to conduct them. so the president believes the senate should and will confirm john brennan expeditiously. >> reporter: expect him to get questions about how involved he was in interrogation techniques at the cia. rick: senator lindsey graham will be at today's hearing on benghazi. the top carolina republican joins us later right here in america's newsroom. martha: just hours to go before the cia nominee john brennan testifies. mr. brennan helped manage the drone program. he is very supportive of it and has spoken out on it's times. it represents a concession about it white house, do it not? >> reporter: it does. the president acting a week and a half after a group of bipartisan senators asked for the legal opinion that justifies drone attacks against americans abroad. but others say it doesn't answer how much evidence the president ne
at the white house they are emphasizing brennan's experience. >> mr. brennan brings, i think, not on a vast amount of experience, but a significant perspective on the battles that we wage in this effort. and the right way to conduct them. so the president believes the senate should and will confirm john brennan expeditiously. >> reporter: expect him to get questions about how involved he was in interrogation techniques at the cia. rick: senator lindsey graham will be at today's...
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mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is the answer or do you think? >> i do not understand, because that will not be a request coming to me. >> i understand, so my direction to you, at what i ask you, is that you review that. we will get you the and notation, if necessary. secretary panetta told us it was detainee information that was key to them finding the courier and bin laden. were you briefed by any of the analysts who tracked down bin laden? >> before the operation? >> yes. >> yes, absolutely. >> is that the information given to you, that it came from interrogation of deta
mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is...
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brennan has been forthright on the issue of terrorism. he declined to define waterboarding as terrorism in the hearings. the administration has been very clear. leon panetta when he was head of the cia was clear that it is torture and the u.s. does not engage in torture. while there is a continuation of policies related to drones and targeted assassinations, i don't think that there is necessarily a continuation of or ttorture. >> well, the debate we are not having is what are the contours of this, and if we want to win hearts and minds to go back to a vietnam plauz, what are thrase, the contours of this? will it expand and come back to hit us in a strong way? >> as someone who knows the pro and con intell and we send people into the area to make people suspicious of each other, and killed people in a domestic sphere, aed on the know the ugliness and the nastiness of that and the ways in which have sat over and against any american notice that we are not the kind of country that does that, but to get on the other side of co-intel to say i
brennan has been forthright on the issue of terrorism. he declined to define waterboarding as terrorism in the hearings. the administration has been very clear. leon panetta when he was head of the cia was clear that it is torture and the u.s. does not engage in torture. while there is a continuation of policies related to drones and targeted assassinations, i don't think that there is necessarily a continuation of or ttorture. >> well, the debate we are not having is what are the...
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this letter is the most forceful warning to date that lawmakers may stall or even block mr. obama's nominee to run the cia. white house counter terrorism advisor john brennan unless the senators get good cooperation from the administration like providing the secret legal memos, quote: congress and the public can decide whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizens is subject to appropriate limitations and safeguards. republican senator susan collins who signed a letter telling fox late today the refusal to release the secret memos is hypocritical. >> obama administration that released all of these opinions from the office of legal counsel about the bush administration's treatment of detainees. so, why the different standards? >> brennan is expected to be pressed thursday not only on the targeted killing program but the cia interrogation program. critics call torture and whether he was or knows the source of these national security leaks to the media shep. >> shepard: you mentioned critics, catherine, many of them are saying the president isn't really l
this letter is the most forceful warning to date that lawmakers may stall or even block mr. obama's nominee to run the cia. white house counter terrorism advisor john brennan unless the senators get good cooperation from the administration like providing the secret legal memos, quote: congress and the public can decide whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizens is subject to appropriate limitations and safeguards. republican senator susan collins who signed a letter...
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. >> and mr. brennan, who is going to be having a hearing later today that i won't be attending. i consider him to be one of the foremost intelligence experts around with twenty or twenty five years experience. would you agree with that? >> yes, indeed. >> he stated to me and will state again this afternoon the same thing you just said. that we realized at that moment it was a planned terrorist attack. now, the only question i want to ask you i'll ask you for an answer now and i doubt if you'll have a good answer. but after that i'd like to have you think about it and give an answer for the record. that is with everyone agreeing including the secretary clinton that right after this took place, that was in fact a planned terrorist attack. how in the world could ambassador rice say, quote, the information this is five days later -- the information the best information and the best assessment we have to date is that in fact this was not a preplained premeditated attack. >> no. again, i mean, i was not involved in the talking points. that were presented to her. obviously the intellig
. >> and mr. brennan, who is going to be having a hearing later today that i won't be attending. i consider him to be one of the foremost intelligence experts around with twenty or twenty five years experience. would you agree with that? >> yes, indeed. >> he stated to me and will state again this afternoon the same thing you just said. that we realized at that moment it was a planned terrorist attack. now, the only question i want to ask you i'll ask you for an answer now and...
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walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i called it torture and i said that torture was official policy that's on the one side on the other side the cia had told us internally at the time that it was working what year was that that was in two thousand to two thousand and three they were telling us that it was working we now know from the inspector general's report that was released in the spring of two thousand and nine that that was a lie that the cia was lying even to those of us inside the cia and i think it was just to protect themselves and to protect the policy but it never worked did you have a personal experience related to torture
walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i...
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mr. obama was when he got to host lebron james and the miami heat. so excited he couldn't resist showing off. >> i know this is is the first trip tore some of these players, but a few of them were here a couple of years ago for a pickup game on my birthday. it their skill. [ laughter ] >> gave them the competitive edge that they needed. and i think part of the reason they came back today is they want another shot at the old guy. [ laughter ] >> chris: chris the only thing real there was trash talk. dianne feinstein is leading the confirmation hearings for cia director nominee john brennan and that's "special report" for tonight. i'm chris wallace in washington. keep it right here on fox where more news is always on the way. "special report" online with a twist starts right now. >> shepard: this is the fox report. tonight, more graphic testimony from a woman on trial for killing her boyfriend. she says she shot him, stabbed him, slit his throat. but jody arias says it was actually all his
mr. obama was when he got to host lebron james and the miami heat. so excited he couldn't resist showing off. >> i know this is is the first trip tore some of these players, but a few of them were here a couple of years ago for a pickup game on my birthday. it their skill. [ laughter ] >> gave them the competitive edge that they needed. and i think part of the reason they came back today is they want another shot at the old guy. [ laughter ] >> chris: chris the only thing real...
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mr. obama's traditional supporters on the left. >> the united states took a program that had very -- used very minimally by president bush. now they are over 3,000 civilians who have been killed in this -- in this program. >> these documents released tonight by the senate intelligence committee in advance of tomorrow's hearing, show john brennan was questioned by federal investigators as part of two national security leak investigations. brennan claims he is only considered a witness in those cases and not the subject of the investigators, shep. >> shepard: analysts have said, catherine, he will face tough questioning tomorrow on torture as well. >> well, another line of questioning at the hearing will likely focus on brennan's 2007 statement that the controversial cia program, which included the waterboarding of 9/11 architect khalid sheikh mohammed saved lives. brennan later said he had raised concerns within the cia about the program that critics label as torture. >> this was not a pro
mr. obama's traditional supporters on the left. >> the united states took a program that had very -- used very minimally by president bush. now they are over 3,000 civilians who have been killed in this -- in this program. >> these documents released tonight by the senate intelligence committee in advance of tomorrow's hearing, show john brennan was questioned by federal investigators as part of two national security leak investigations. brennan claims he is only considered a...
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walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i called it torture and i said that torture was official policy that's on the one side on the other side the cia had told us internally at the time that it was working what year was that that was in two thousand to two thousand and three they were telling us that it was working we now know from the inspector general's report that was released in the spring of two thousand and nine that that was a lie that the cia was lying even to those of us inside the cia and i think it was just to protect themselves and to protect the policy but it never worked. did you have a personal experience related to tortur
walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i...
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do you agree, mr. secretary agree, mr. secretary, it was an attack on the annex? >> i said it was three days. >> that is what john brennan said also been used unequivocably. sometimes someone has to ask the question, if that was true with this presentation by susan rice, before all of america is the fact was it was not a preplanned or premeditated attack. i will not ask you to respond to that the people understand everybody knew that it was free planned and premeditated attack. >> senator reid. >> hq secretary, as you point* out there were two attacks one of the compound and one on the annex. but the time chart indicates there is a significant gap on the first at midnight and the appointment of mortars and rpg's did that indicate it took awhile to organize themselves to conduct a full blown attack that that with general dempsey they seized an opportunity then supplement the firepower coordinating attacks suggesting there was improvisation with the planning? >> the second was much more deliberate and planned and opportunistic because the people who moved from the f
do you agree, mr. secretary agree, mr. secretary, it was an attack on the annex? >> i said it was three days. >> that is what john brennan said also been used unequivocably. sometimes someone has to ask the question, if that was true with this presentation by susan rice, before all of america is the fact was it was not a preplanned or premeditated attack. i will not ask you to respond to that the people understand everybody knew that it was free planned and premeditated attack....
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and of course the thing i'm getting -- do you agree, mr. secretary, that it was unequivocally a terrorist attack on the annex? >> when i appeared before this committee three days afterwards i said it was a terrorist attack. >> very good. that's what john brennan said also. he used the word unequivocally. i would have to say we have to understand sometimes someone's going to have to ask the question, if that was true and we knew all that on the sunday this presentation by susan rice, for all of america, said it was -- we have today is that the fact is -- was, this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. unquote. i won't even ask you to respond to that but i think it's important that people understand that everybody knew on that sunday that it was a preplanned, premeditated attack. thank you for your tolerance, mr. chairman. >> senator reed. >> thank you, mr. chairman, thank you, mr. secretary, and mr. dempsey. as you point out in your testimony, two attacks, one on the compound, one on the annex. but as the time chart indicates, there see
and of course the thing i'm getting -- do you agree, mr. secretary, that it was unequivocally a terrorist attack on the annex? >> when i appeared before this committee three days afterwards i said it was a terrorist attack. >> very good. that's what john brennan said also. he used the word unequivocally. i would have to say we have to understand sometimes someone's going to have to ask the question, if that was true and we knew all that on the sunday this presentation by susan rice,...